Anthropic Cracking Down on Video Game Rewrites

(twitter.com)

71 points | by jacquesm 2 hours ago

26 comments

  • mgdev 1 hour ago
    Can you imagine a devtools company deciding, "Actually, no, we're going to police what kind of programs you can compile" ?

    They need to decide of AI is a technology or an ideology. We cannot afford to blend the two, or we're going to end up as some kind of perverted global theocracy.

    • xorcist 1 hour ago
      It's netiher, at least not in a way relevant to the question here.

      It's a privately owned service, and it's theirs to decide what they want to do with it. Continuing on your parable, if you paid someone to compile your software, of course they could say one day that they decided to not not compile weapons guidance software or whatever. It happens all the time. The Debian compile cluster will "police" that you can only compile free software, for example.

      If you hire me to write software, I can politely decline without giving a reason. The same should Anthropic, should you hire their service to write your software.

      If you want control over software, you or someone you trust must invest in running it. We cannot continue to outsource control to other organizations and then act surprised when they exercise said control.

      • swatcoder 1 hour ago
        At this stage, they certainly have the right to refuse whatever tasks they'd like, but even rightful actions come with consequences.

        The more they exercise that right, and the more reactively so, the more they erode the ability for customers to rely on their product staying available to them in the long term. If I need to worry that Anthropic might shut down some critical element my workflow on any given week, then I'm incentivized to either keep my workflows very portable and light-footed (goodbye moat) or take my business to a vendor I can better rely on (goodbye customer).

      • Alchemista 15 minutes ago
        So frontier AI can monopolize all the silicon in the world, demand they be the only place to run inference, and then strictly control what people do with it. I'm sorry the way you pose it makes it seem like it is some free market.

        What we are seeing starting to evolve is a deeply distorted market.

      • Humorist2290 1 hour ago
        It's privately owned and indeed they can set the terms.

        But if you're hired to write software, and you accept the job, and you accept payment, and then you decline -- well, it would be polite to offer a refund. Anthropic is, as far as I know, not up front about what is/isn't permitted to be generated, and has a history of refusing justifiable refunds.

      • toomuchtodo 14 minutes ago
        Ongoing model distillation to continually improve open weights for distribution is necessary then. Anthropic can choose how their service is used, others are free to improve models based on their training.
      • nightski 1 hour ago
        I don't think anyone was arguing the legality of it. At the end of the day though this is why open models will win.
      • tiahura 55 minutes ago
        MS could add no mean programs to VC TOS.
    • done_lurking 1 hour ago
      It's the natural consequence of a few companies having all of the compute resources. They can do whatever they want since the alternative for users is to pay out the nose for hardware to run a model that isn't SOTA.
    • kidel001 28 minutes ago
      Amen. (or erm maybe that is not the right response ;-D)
    • whattheheckheck 14 minutes ago
      Its all about checks and balances -dario
    • bethekidyouwant 1 hour ago
      Didn’t read the diamond age eh?
    • weezing 1 hour ago
      Other corpos are mad that private users with access to AI fuck them over
    • worried_individ 59 minutes ago
      [dead]
    • Hamuko 1 hour ago
      Claude is a commercial service. And much like other services (AWS, Cloudflare, GitHub, etc.), they might boot you off if they feel fire under their feet.
      • m4rtink 55 minutes ago
        Commercial service trying to sell you the result of scrapping all the data from the Internet without permission of the authors.
        • Hamuko 54 minutes ago
          Yeah. My suggestion would be to not give them a dollar. Zero-revenue companies usually don't go far. Better yet, don't even have an account. Having zero MAU is also a pretty terrible for a business.
    • filipn 1 hour ago
      You can write the code yourself you know?
      • InsideOutSanta 59 minutes ago
        "The car I bought doesn't want to drive me to the hospital!"

        "You can walk yourself you know?"

        • FeteCommuniste 55 minutes ago
          The current state of "Hacker" News, where suggesting someone actually write code is seen as like suggesting that the injured walk to the hospital.
          • InsideOutSanta 34 minutes ago
            I can't believe I have to spell this out, but when people make an analogy, they're not saying that the things they are comparing are exactly the same. I'm saying that I paid for my Claude subscription, so it should do the development work I ask it to do.

            Telling people that they can write code by hand is like telling them that they can walk when their car doesn't drive, regardless of where you drive to. It's technically correct, but it is completely irrelevant.

        • hhh 55 minutes ago
          Your car isn't being directed to trample the IP rights of others.
  • drunner 1 hour ago
    Anthropic (and others) mass harvested source code from around the internet while ignoring licenses to build their product. That's of course allowed (by them).

    Using the trained model to create certain types of software that they already harvested, not allowed?

    What's the difference between having the model make a game and writing any other software? It's like trying to say you can only use our model to write new stories but not fanfiction when they trained the model on the original works which would allow the fanfiction to be produced in the first place.

    • giwook 1 hour ago
      The difference is now they have a trillion dollar company they need to protect so they must pull the ladder up behind them.
    • WarmWash 1 hour ago
      >That's of course allowed (by them).

      And the courts that ruled fair use.

      • metadat 54 minutes ago
        Recreating a game is also fair use.
        • giwook 48 minutes ago
          Not when it eats into corporate profits!!!1o1o1eon

          /s

  • drivebyhooting 1 hour ago
    Mark my words: AI will only be allowed to destroy the software engineering profession, but somehow protectionism will be enforced for everything else in the name of “safety” and “fairness”.
    • lifty 1 hour ago
      better start the dev guild or union so we can get some negotiation power in the political struggle.
    • 123l-aa 1 hour ago
      No, paid AI mathematicians are currently lining up to destroy math, too.
  • DavCreator 1 hour ago
  • m4rtink 1 hour ago
    So we are going from running your stuff from cloud that randomly closes accounts or charges ridiculous costs to pinpointing arbitrary AI use cases and banning them on a whim. I guess that's progress !?

    Indeed, cloud == other peoples computers, with all what it entails.

  • philipkglass 1 hour ago
    The most important secret of the atomic bomb was that it could be built at all. That's the same way I feel about Anthropic's products (increasingly, tech demos rather than products, if you go off the happy path.) They've demonstrated what is possible. Now I'm hoping for a fistful of rivals to build functional equivalents.

    I'm still an Anthropic customer but in the long run I'm going to be using services that align with my interests. I want a provider that won't nerf or refuse requests around software security, building LLM training pipelines, the natural sciences, and reverse engineering. Anthropic is useful as a transitional bootloader for developing and demonstrating LLM technology broadly but each new safety "enhancement" makes it look more dispensable.

  • peri-cl 44 minutes ago
    Anthropic is truly an altruistic company, selflessly working so hard to write free marketing for its competitors.

    That one Anthropic blog, "hey check out how amazing GLM-5.3 is, wow", still lives rent-free inside my head. They're like the Gerald Ratners[0] of software marketing.

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ratner#Career

  • umvi 1 hour ago
    Easy to see the slippery slope from "safety" to "DRM". Abliterated/open models will become increasingly important for AI freedom if they aren't made illegal first...
    • bethekidyouwant 58 minutes ago
      How do you make it illegal to run software on a computer on the Internet?
      • qlte 43 minutes ago
        Same way you would with missile guidance/targeting software (ITAR in the US, or equivalent in other MTCR countries). You probably wouldn't prosecute individuals running models locally but create a chilling effect by scaring any semi-upstanding citizen from openly hosting/developing models (and no US business would touch it with a 10ft pole).
  • rcr-anti 57 minutes ago
    Some context to this, there's been a bunch of discussion in indie game development spaces about how it might be risky to release demos, or any information really, since a bunch of (probably? can't necessarily assume now.) people seem to immediately try to clone it with agents. It's to the extent I've seen genuine confusion about which game is the original in Twitch streams/chats. There have been a bunch of takes one way or another on it, including 'if your game is clone-able from a demo your idea isn't unique or complex enough'.

    Ars's bit on it recently: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2026/10/ai-game-clones-are-ma...

  • giwook 1 hour ago
    Open models become more and more appealing by the day.
  • Geof25 1 hour ago
    So people will be running reverse engineering through openrouter and similar or local inference while Anthropic is severely crippling cyber security usefulness of their products. Feels like own goal.
  • MyHonestOpinon 54 minutes ago
    What is the reason for disallowing video game rewrites ? Officially, unofficially.
  • andsoitis 1 hour ago
    Assuming this is true (I believe it is unconfirmed), why limit to games?
    • chpatrick 56 minutes ago
      Maybe they got a friendly letter from the games industry.
    • vunderba 1 hour ago
      I'm not sure why it's being limited to just games (it might just be the announcement), but I'm sure vibe-coded stuff like this that people keep happily plastering over every possible social media outlet presumably isn't helping.

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50259643

      • Tiberium 59 minutes ago
        That's not even a recreation, it's just the leaked sources of the game recompiled to WASM, so I don't think their prompt would apply to this case.

        I tried locally and Opus was willing to go ahead to rewrite a decompiled game into Rust. Wording changes its decisions a lot, when I say "rewrite it in Rust" it proceeds, when I say "recreate it in Rust" it refuses, probably because the prompt uses "recreation"

        • vunderba 54 minutes ago
          Interesting - I guess it's hard to say if it would be caught by anthropic censors upstream since we aren't really privy to how broad this new "net" is going to be.
    • efdee 44 minutes ago
      It explains why yesterday it refused to create a clone of a game that I was asking for.
    • close04 1 hour ago
      They didn't start with games. At least they had plenty of arbitrary limits for what it wouldn't do usually citing safety. What they do now is introducing a new arbitrary reason - this time because it hurts other deep pocketed buddies, large companies in the gaming industry. You can bet your tokens this isn't where the list of arbitrary reasons ends.
    • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
      Legal risk from Microsoft and other game makers. Path to success will have to be self hosted open weights imho. Big Tech wants a monopoly on AI revenue, they do not want people cloning what they're gating with IP for enterprise value and cashflows.

      I believe games is the easy target, but only the first, from a reverse engineering, decomp, and re implementation perspective. They will eventually come for anything that enables rapid, efficient, and effective trivial re implementation.

      Remade: Everything can be remade. Discover independent software reimplementations. Request the software you want to see remade next. - https://remade.wiki/

      Capital Wants a Monopoly - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50291135 - October 2026 (Context is DoorDash and Instacart, but the concept holds broadly)

      Microsoft and Epic Games Suddenly Agree That AI Is Theft - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50271271 - October 2026

      Microsoft and Epic Games DCMA AI-Gen Clones - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50263345 - October 2026

      DeepSeek just open-sourced its inference engine - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50163277 - October 2026

      Reverse engineer anything with agents, from app behavior down to native binaries - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50058850 - October 2026

      (shades of the Internet Archive attempting to preserve access to culture with controlled lending, and being told no due to copyright law [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48789317]; not identical of course, but I see the issues somewhat intertwined as it relates to the tension of knowledge and compute freedom vs capital demand for monopolies and moats via copyright and intellectual property regimes)

      • saghm 1 hour ago
        IP protection once again scales with your wallet, where the benefits disproportionately help those who already have the most resources and hinders those with the least.
  • lrvick 58 minutes ago
    I wonder how long before people figure out that you can run alliterated models locally on consumer hardware capable of doing all this without help from Sam or Dario.
    • giwook 46 minutes ago
      I think the performance of these models on consumer hardware have a long way to go before ablierated* models have the potential to go mainstream.
      • lrvick 22 minutes ago
        Damn spell check. I typed it correctly the first time.

        Anyway, I have 8 r9700 GPUs racked up that can run a dozen or so sessions of qwen 3.8 flash next at once at > 100tps each.

        I build operating systems and fix compilers with them and reverse engineer anything I want. Never given money to Sam or Dario or anyone else for tokens. If consumer gpus and models never got any better, I am all set.

        • dcss_gardener 6 minutes ago
          So in this case it may not be that people haven't "figured out" that this is possible but that they don't have $20k lying around to experiment with.
  • ThatMedicIsASpy 1 hour ago
    Hide random comments in my code so usAI says it won't touch it?
  • chiffre01 40 minutes ago
    Will this impact having Claude re-write electron apps as native versions ?
  • aizk 1 hour ago
    What a wonderful day for open source models.
  • hmokiguess 1 hour ago
    How can something that provably cannot create and only recycle follow such instructions.

    The training data contains such originals, if you don't want it recycling those then purge the commercial data you stole and provide original data yourself.

  • bushido 1 hour ago
    They can't help themselves but play the Don't be evil[0] in fast-forward.

    They pretty much write the case for why open weights and open source models need to win. The amount of policing that Claude does is pretty problematic.

    I'd written about this recently, but it won't even sign in during some browser tests on my local system for authentication which goes to my local system because it's built into its programming now. I literally can't use it on some long horizon work.

    The reason I mentioned that here is it deems that as problematic behavior, and nothing I can give it will change its mind. I feel like with video game development, it is going to do something of the same.

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil

  • pton_xd 51 minutes ago
    "and games from the user’s own designs and assets."

    How would Claude know if the designs and assets are my own?

  • throwaway27448 1 hour ago
    Hard to imagine this is actually a concern for game makers. Decompilation aside, AI can only produce shallow visual mimicry. If you were to actually try to enjoy these games you'd be miserable nearly instantly.

    Rookie move to fight this legally! What replaces it actually will be engaging and competitive. Palworld is just the beginning....

  • pelagicAustral 1 hour ago
    NOOOOO my Battlefield 2 in JS!!! NOOO
  • koskokos 1 hour ago
    I see where they are coming from but I was really hoping for a surge of labour of love open source abandonware recreations.
  • everdrive 57 minutes ago
    Just let the LLM do your thinking for you, but but don't worry if some thoughts are not allowed.
  • faryoppo 1 hour ago
    yeah your right.we better act now
  • 123l-aa 1 hour ago
    They steal from everyone else, but closed source companies are protected.

    The new copyright applies if you are worth more than $1 billion. Everything else is public domain!

    It is unimaginable that people on this very site use the products of a company that is worse than Oracle and Microsoft combined.

    EDIT: Why the downvotes, Anthropic people? I didn't say that Amodei's wife was public domain.